The pear flavor in this cocktail is intense; the st. germain and eau de vie definitely amplify each other. The rye is very much in the background. I used clear creek pear brandy and rittenhouse rye. If I were to try again I'd halve the st. germain and eau de vie and maybe try adding a little punt e mes if the drink seemed incomplete.

 a bit too sweet for me

Nice flavor but a bit too sweet. Maybe 2 to 1 would be a little better.

A bit sweeter than I prefer. I added 1/2 oz dry vermouth (and I used Punt e Mes). I think I'd try it with just the dry vermouth next time, or scale back the sweet quantities.

I had my bartender make this for me tonight since I don't have the vermouth (but will soon, since it is absolutely delicious!)- I enjoyed this quite a bit and will make it again. I think it might also be good with a bit less CioCiaro so that the vermouth has more of a presence.

I just mixed a version with Amer Picon in place of the CioCiaro and it is divine. Not too sweet in the least. 5/5.

Um, I'm jealous :) I have been thinking about ordering the Bittermens Amere Nouvelle... Wonder how similar they are?

Hmm, dunno! Would like to hear about it if you find out.

I don't think they're similar - Amer Picon is heavy and caramelly, like Ramazzotti or other dark amaro. The Amer Nouvelle (IIRC) is a lighter spirit designed to show off the orange and gentian in a more neutral base. I'm getting them when they come to Texas, and will taste them side by side.

Thanks,

Zachary

Made with 2oz Templeton Rye, Ramazzotti, and Antica Formula. A lovely drink to read with on a cool night.

I had my bartender make this for me since I don't have the rum. It came out on the sweet side. Maybe a different rum or less of the other ingredients next time

Yes, just by looking that 's going to be pretty darn sweet. Personally, I can tolerate a sweet drink if there is enough spirit flavor and/or bitter. I have trouble with sweet and herbal drinks, but others seem to like them. Not everyone likes every drink, even if it's created by Phil Ward. ;)

3/4oz of Carpano is definitely too much sweetness for me. I prefer this at 1/2oz, though when we make it at my bar we actually use Punt e Mes, which has some bitterness to balance. We also often swap the Peychaud's for a few drops of Fee Bro's Whiskey Barrel Aged Bitters, which can really dry out drinks (though also easily overpower them). Also, a lot of rums have a lot of natural sweetness so pick one you think will work. Not that this isn't already a great idea/cocktail, but there is no "right" recipe, just the one you like. Here's how I like it:
2oz dark rum (ex. Flor de Cana 5-Year Old)
1/2oz Punt e Mes
1/4oz yellow Chartreuse
1/4oz Benedictine
few drops of aromatic bitters for dryness if needed

I have not had Hum, but from what I can find on the web, it is not bitter. If that is indeed the case, then I wouldn't call it an amaro, but rather a regular liqueur. It's odd that they call it both a spirit (in the name) and a liqueur (on the label).