Various different versions of this recipe use grenadine or raspberry syrup in place of the raspberries, and/or dry vermouth. For example, see Julie Reiner's spec from Clover Club in NY - 1.5 Gin, 1/2 dry vermouth, 1/2oz raspberry syrup, 1/2oz lemon juice.

the PDT recipe: 2oz Plymouth Gin, 3/4oz lemon juice, 1/2oz simple syrup, 1 bsp Bonne Mamman raspberry preserves, and 1 egg white. Dry shake, shake w/ ice, and strain into a chilled egg coupe

Does anyone have an issue if I fix this drink to this: http://cold-glass.com/2013/02/19/the-clover-club-cocktail/ - it's 1.5/.75/.75/.25. I can also add a note that it was originally 1:1:1:1 which is way too sweet for modern palates.

Thanks,

Zachary

I honestly have never made the version with dry vermouth before, but from the ratios that Cold Glass gives, it sounds fantastic. No objections from me.

I made this both ways tonight, and it definitely needs the dry vermouth. I also like the 6:3:3:1 ratio. Interestingly, the raspberry + lemon makes pink grapefruit in the same way the Jasmine does with Campari + lemon.

Thanks,

Zachary

A nice Clover Club can be made by muddling 5 or 6 fresh raspberries in 1/2 oz (homemade) grenadine (J. Morgenthaler's recipe with a little extra orange flower water). I use half and half Dolin Blanc and Dry. Strain well and garnish with 4 raspberries on a bamboo pick. I've made them with Hayman's Old Tom, Boodles, and Plymouth Navy Strength gin - all are very good!

I have to say the now official recipe here on kindred I found poor.

I made this with Ford's Gin, Dolin Dry Vermouth and a high quality raspberry syrup made by Blossoms UK.

It was incredibly badly balanced; a smoothed out martini, dull, flat and dry. I will try again with the NY Clover Club recipe ratios. I may recommend a curator properly reviews this recipe vs the alternatives.

Hmm... with 3/4 lemon, this shouldn't be flat or smoothed out anything. The earliest recipe I can find is William Boothby's "The World's Drinks and How to Mix Them" in 1908, which is 2 barspoons of grenadine or raspberry syrup, "enough lemon juice to overcome the sweetness of the syrup", half an egg white, and a jigger of Plymouth gin. Julie Reiner of Clover Club fame (and Dave Wondrich evidently) like 1.5 Plymouth, .5 Dolin Dry, .5 lemon, .5 cold processed raspberry syrup, and 1/4 oz egg white. At the turn of the century, Plymouth (or "Coates Plymouth" as it was called) was the fancy dry gin. Dave Wondrich says dry vermouth was in some of the earliest recipe he found, and who am I to argue with Dave Wondrich? At the end of the day the balance of this drink depends on your raspberry syrup and your lemon juice.  Thanks,  Zachary 

In The Essential Cocktail I found 1 1/2 oz gin, 3/4 oz simple syrup, 3/4 oz lemon juice, 1/2 tsp grenadine and 1 small egg white. Works for me.

Wonderful recipe but would like to up the basil a little. Will try 7 leaves next time. — ☆☆☆☆

Drinking the Devil's Acre (Cocktail No. 24, p. 227) specifies 1/2 oz cocktail syrup, 2 oz Junipero gin and 1 oz lime juice, with either a spring of basil or lemon wheel as garnish. Attributed to Greg Lindgren, Carl Christiansen and the Heart of the City Farmers' Market.

source: http://www.bonappetit.com/blogsandforums/blogs/badaily/2012/05/james-be…

Thanks for the citation. Updated source per zombijosue. Added brand of gin and corrected the amount of mint from 6 to 3 springs to conform to cited recipe.

I don’t know if this should be a curation request (too many years spent lurking without making an account). But per Toby Maloney the pinch of salt should more specifically be 15-20 grains of kosher salt. This can also be made with Hendricks but at 2.5 oz. 

citation: https://forums.egullet.org/topic/104181-the-violet-hour/page/9/

For early cocktails from The Violet Hour, I would suggest checking LTHforum or egullet too. 

Not as exciting as I expected. Lime overpowers, rose and mint are lost and I went heavy on both.

I cleaned up this drink, merging the DeGroff, Esquire, and Distinguished Spirits versions into one. This follows the Esquire version, though I've tagged the egg white as optional. Thanks,  Zachary

For reference, De Groff has 1.5/1/0.75, which is his usual ratio for sours.

Good, but it needed a little more gin and some orange bitters to really bring it together.

Used Empress 1908 gin & dry curacao for a color explosion!

I've been drinking G&Ts like this for years. I prefer 2 oz Gin, 3.5-4oz Tonic, .5 oz Campari and .25 oz lime juice.

Great minds think alike.

If you have a little time, try freezing the Campari (or Aperol) with the lime in a Frosun. Makes for a rather special G&T variant.

Cleaned this up a lot. It now conforms to the original recipe quoted in Beachbum Berry Remixed. Kaiser Penguin has a good comparison of the various Fogcutter recipes floating around the Internet, but basically says that the orange juice is the dangerous part of this drink and the goal is to get it into balance with everything else. Some of the many variations are noted in the Notes section.